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| Taylor Guerrieri |
Of the 31 remaining players, 5 have reached high-A Charlotte, 10 are in low-A Bowling Green, 3 are with short-season A Hudson Valley, 9 are in advanced-rookie Princeton, and 4 are with the rookie league GCL Rays.
Some signed late and didn't play last year and others have battled injuries, but most have had just about a full season of professional experience at this point. Here are how the players still in the organization have done statistically:
1/24 - RHSP Taylor Guerrieri ($1,600,000 signing bonus) - Hudson Valley Renegades
Year Age Team W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2012 19 Hudson Valley 0 1 0.69 3 3 13.0 8 1 0 1 14 0.692 5.5 0.0 0.7 9.71/31 - OF Mikie Mahtook ($1,150,000) - Charlotte Stone Crabs
Year Age Team AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2012 22 Charlotte 303 38 89 14 6 4 35 17 5 25 64 .294 .355 .419 .7741/32 - SS Jake Hager ($963,000) - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 18 Princeton 193 29 52 11 1 4 17 5 7 9 26 .269 .305 .399 .704 2012 19 Bowling Green 265 33 74 17 1 4 40 5 6 20 32 .279 .331 .396 .727 2 Seasons 458 62 126 28 2 8 57 10 13 29 58 .275 .320 .397 .7181s/38 - SS Brandon Martin ($860,000) - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 17 GCL Rays 47 10 12 1 0 1 3 5 3 7 12 .255 .386 .340 .726 2012 18 Princeton 75 15 20 4 3 2 12 5 0 7 12 .267 .329 .480 .809 2 Seasons 122 25 32 5 3 3 15 10 3 14 24 .262 .353 .426 .7791s/41 - 3B Tyler Goeddel ($1,500,000) - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Team AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2012 19 Bowling Green 227 38 56 13 1 6 30 20 3 26 68 .247 .333 .392 .7251s/42 - RHSP Jeff Ames ($650,000) - Hudson Valley Renegades
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 20 Princeton 4 2 7.12 11 5 30.1 40 24 4 7 39 1.549 11.9 1.2 2.1 11.6 2012 21 Hudson Valley 2 0 1.12 5 5 24.0 16 3 0 7 23 0.958 6.0 0.0 2.6 8.6 2 Seasons 6 2 4.47 16 10 54.1 56 27 4 14 62 1.288 9.3 0.7 2.3 10.31s/52 - LHSP Blake Snell ($684,000) - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 18 GCL Rays 1 2 3.08 11 8 26.1 30 9 0 11 26 1.557 10.3 0.0 3.8 8.9 2012 19 Princeton 3 0 0.40 5 5 22.2 10 1 0 8 26 0.794 4.0 0.0 3.2 10.3 2 Seasons 4 2 1.84 16 13 49.0 40 10 0 19 52 1.204 7.3 0.0 3.5 9.61s/56 - OF Kes Carter ($625,000) - Bowling Green Hot Rods disabled list
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 21 Hudson Valley 13 2 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 1 .231 .333 .231 .564 2012 22 Bowling Green 27 3 9 1 2 0 3 2 1 2 7 .333 .379 .519 .898 2 Seasons 40 5 12 1 2 0 4 2 1 4 8 .300 .364 .425 .7891s/59 - LHSP Grayson Garvin ($370,000) - Charlotte Stone Crabs disabled list
Year Age Team W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2012 22 Charlotte 2 4 5.05 11 10 46.1 45 26 0 19 37 1.381 8.7 0.0 3.7 7.21s/60 - OF James Harris, Jr. ($490,000) - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 17 GCL Rays 158 17 26 6 0 0 8 13 4 13 39 .165 .257 .203 .460 2012 18 Princeton 60 8 10 2 0 1 7 3 3 7 16 .167 .265 .250 .515 2 Seasons 218 25 36 8 0 1 15 16 7 20 55 .165 .259 .216 .4752/75 - OF Granden Goetzman ($490,000) - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 18 GCL Rays 75 8 13 3 0 0 8 6 1 8 17 .173 .262 .213 .475 2012 19 Princeton 47 10 14 5 0 1 8 7 1 4 7 .298 .346 .468 .814 2 Seasons 122 18 27 8 0 1 16 13 2 12 24 .221 .294 .311 .6062/89 - RHRP Lenny Linsky ($392,400) - Charlotte Stone Crabs
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 21 Hudson Valley 3 0 1.46 12 0 24.2 19 4 2 6 27 1.014 6.9 0.7 2.2 9.9 2011 21 Bowling Green 0 0 0.00 4 0 4.2 3 0 0 1 3 0.857 5.8 0.0 1.9 5.8 2012 22 GCL Rays 0 0 0.00 2 0 3.0 2 0 0 0 1 0.667 6.0 0.0 0.0 3.0 2012 22 Charlotte 0 1 11.81 4 0 5.1 10 7 1 8 3 3.375 16.9 1.7 13.5 5.1 2 Seasons 3 1 2.63 22 0 37.2 34 11 3 15 34 1.301 8.1 0.7 3.6 8.13/119 - OF Johnny Eierman ($550,000) - GCL Rays
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 18 GCL Rays 59 7 15 3 2 1 5 1 1 5 17 .254 .328 .424 .752 2012 19 GCL Rays 49 4 14 6 0 0 2 3 2 4 10 .286 .340 .408 .748 2 Seasons 108 11 29 9 2 1 7 4 3 9 27 .269 .333 .417 .7504/150 - 3B Riccio Torrez ($180,000) - Charlotte Stone Crabs
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 21 GCL Rays 52 4 12 1 0 2 3 1 1 1 12 .231 .259 .365 .625 2011 21 Charlotte 31 2 6 1 0 1 6 0 0 1 2 .194 .242 .323 .565 2012 22 Charlotte 289 38 64 9 2 6 35 6 2 18 55 .221 .299 .329 .628 2 Seasons 372 44 82 11 2 9 44 7 3 20 69 .220 .290 .333 .6236/210 - RHSP Jake Floethe ($105,000) - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 22 Hudson Valley 1 1 1.71 7 5 21.0 21 4 0 7 15 1.333 9.0 0.0 3.0 6.4 2012 23 Bowling Green 8 1 3.92 16 16 82.2 77 36 2 19 60 1.161 8.4 0.2 2.1 6.5 2 Seasons 9 2 3.47 23 21 103.2 98 40 2 26 75 1.196 8.5 0.2 2.3 6.57/240 - LHSP Ryan Carpenter ($200,000) - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 20 Hudson Valley 2 1 0.76 8 4 23.2 9 2 0 4 26 0.549 3.4 0.0 1.5 9.9 2012 21 Bowling Green 8 4 3.51 19 18 97.1 93 38 7 14 81 1.099 8.6 0.6 1.3 7.5 2 Seasons 10 5 2.98 27 22 121.0 102 40 7 18 107 0.992 7.6 0.5 1.3 8.08/270 - 1B John Alexander ($325,000) - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 18 GCL Rays 51 4 16 4 1 2 11 0 0 0 12 .314 .321 .549 .870 2012 19 Princeton 76 7 17 2 1 2 10 0 0 3 15 .224 .263 .355 .618 2 Seasons 127 11 33 6 2 4 21 0 0 3 27 .260 .286 .433 .7199/300 - C Matt Rice ($25,000) - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 22 Hudson Valley 192 25 55 7 0 3 21 5 2 22 39 .286 .376 .370 .745 2012 23 Bowling Green 167 13 48 5 0 4 20 0 1 15 27 .287 .351 .389 .740 2 Seasons 359 38 103 12 0 7 41 5 3 37 66 .287 .364 .379 .74310/330 - RHSP Jacob Faria ($150,000) - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 17 GCL Rays 0 1 2.87 6 2 15.2 15 5 1 1 14 1.021 8.6 0.6 0.6 8.0 2012 18 Princeton 1 1 6.00 4 3 15.0 21 10 1 4 10 1.667 12.6 0.6 2.4 6.0 2 Seasons 1 2 4.40 10 5 30.2 36 15 2 5 24 1.337 10.6 0.6 1.5 7.011/360 - 1B Cameron Seitzer - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 21 Princeton 221 30 63 14 0 11 42 6 3 43 46 .285 .407 .498 .904 2012 22 Bowling Green 254 24 72 24 0 2 29 1 1 30 43 .283 .366 .402 .767 2 Seasons 475 54 135 38 0 13 71 7 4 73 89 .284 .386 .446 .83217/540 - SS Taylor Motter - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 21 Princeton 158 37 51 13 0 4 23 22 2 33 26 .323 .436 .481 .917 2011 21 Bowling Green 11 1 2 0 0 1 3 1 0 1 4 .182 .250 .455 .705 2012 22 Bowling Green 183 22 43 9 2 2 21 14 8 23 37 .235 .324 .339 .662 2 Seasons 352 60 96 22 2 7 47 37 10 57 67 .273 .374 .406 .78119/600 - RHRP Matt Ramsey - GCL Rays
Has not played yet due to TJS.
20/630 - RHRP Garret Smith - Princeton Rays disabled list (TJS in spring 2012)
Year Age Team W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 22 Princeton 0 0 0.82 10 0 11.0 8 1 0 5 5 1.182 6.5 0.0 4.1 4.124/750 - RHRP Charlie Cononie - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 22 Hudson Valley 1 1 2.43 16 0 29.2 17 8 0 12 27 0.978 5.2 0.0 3.6 8.2 2012 23 Bowling Green 1 2 4.33 26 0 35.1 27 17 0 29 39 1.585 6.9 0.0 7.4 9.9 2 Seasons 2 3 3.46 42 0 65.0 44 25 0 41 66 1.308 6.1 0.0 5.7 9.131/960 - RHRP Isaac Gil - GCL Rays
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 19 GCL Rays 1 1 5.14 12 0 14.0 7 8 1 15 10 1.571 4.5 0.6 9.6 6.4 2012 20 GCL Rays 1 0 1.50 3 0 6.0 6 1 0 3 5 1.500 9.0 0.0 4.5 7.5 2 Seasons 2 1 4.05 15 0 20.0 13 9 1 18 15 1.550 5.8 0.4 8.1 6.833/1020 - RHRP Daniel Bream - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 22 GCL Rays 0 2 3.91 14 0 23.0 27 10 2 11 21 1.652 10.6 0.8 4.3 8.2 2012 23 Princeton 1 1 2.25 6 0 12.0 11 3 0 7 9 1.500 8.2 0.0 5.2 6.8 2 Seasons 1 3 3.34 20 0 35.0 38 13 2 18 30 1.600 9.8 0.5 4.6 7.734/1050 - RHRP Zach Butler - Princeton Rays
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 21 GCL Rays 2 1 1.69 16 0 26.2 19 5 1 14 17 1.238 6.4 0.3 4.7 5.7 2012 22 Charlotte 0 0 0.00 1 0 0.1 1 0 0 0 0 3.000 27.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2012 22 Princeton 0 0 2.70 7 0 10.0 8 3 1 3 12 1.100 7.2 0.9 2.7 10.8 2 Seasons 2 1 1.95 24 0 37.0 28 8 2 17 29 1.216 6.8 0.5 4.1 7.138/1170 - C Brandon Choate - GCL Rays restricted list
Year Age Team AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 2011 22 GCL Rays 51 4 14 5 0 1 3 0 0 7 12 .275 .393 .431 .82539/1200 - LHRP Theron Geith - Charlotte Stone Crabs
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 22 GCL Rays 4 1 2.13 16 0 25.1 21 6 1 7 30 1.105 7.5 0.4 2.5 10.7 2011 22 Hudson Valley 0 1 1.80 2 0 5.0 4 1 0 0 4 0.800 7.2 0.0 0.0 7.2 2012 23 Charlotte 0 1 3.16 15 0 25.2 25 9 0 6 26 1.208 8.8 0.0 2.1 9.1 2 Seasons 4 3 2.57 33 0 56.0 50 16 1 13 60 1.125 8.0 0.2 2.1 9.641/1260 - LHRP Shay Crawford - Hudson Valley Renegades
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 23 Princeton 2 2 5.29 10 0 17.0 15 10 0 5 23 1.176 7.9 0.0 2.6 12.2 2011 23 GCL Rays 1 0 0.00 6 0 11.2 5 0 0 1 21 0.514 3.9 0.0 0.8 16.2 2012 24 Hudson Valley 0 0 2.16 7 0 8.1 7 2 0 3 4 1.200 7.6 0.0 3.2 4.3 2 Seasons 3 2 2.92 23 0 37.0 27 12 0 9 48 0.973 6.6 0.0 2.2 11.743/1320 - RHRP Stayton Thomas - Bowling Green Hot Rods
Year Age Teams W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 2011 22 GCL Rays 0 0 0.00 4 0 5.2 1 0 0 0 2 0.176 1.6 0.0 0.0 3.2 2011 22 Hudson Valley 3 0 2.05 14 1 26.1 26 6 1 10 18 1.367 8.9 0.3 3.4 6.2 2012 23 Bowling Green 1 3 5.40 24 0 41.2 47 25 0 16 27 1.512 10.2 0.0 3.5 5.8 2 Seasons 4 3 3.79 42 1 73.2 74 31 1 26 47 1.357 9.0 0.1 3.2 5.7
Did not sign: 5/180 3B J.D. Davis, 12/390 1B Trevor Mitsui, 13/420 OF Tanner English, 14/450 OF Matt Young, 15/480 SS Tyler Parmenter, 16/510 SS Bret McAfee, 22/690 RHP Brad Hendrix, 28/870 C Blake Grant-Parks, 30/930 RHP Chris Burgess, 35/1080 RHP John Magliozzi, 37/1140 RHP Tanner Poppe, 40/1230 RHP Joseph Perricone, 44/1350 1B Jordan Leyland, 45/1380 C Kevin Lusson, 46/1410 C Max Rossiter, 47/1440 RHP Derek Vaughn, 48/1470 LHP Brandon Leibrandt, 49/1500 C Alan Baldwin.
Signed but already out of the organization: 18/570 RHRP Andy Bass, 21/660 3B Ryan Terry, 23/720 OF Matthew Johnson, 25/780 RHRP Brooks Belter, 26/810 2B Raymond Church, 27/840 RHRP Luke Irvine, 29/900 2B Jonathan Koscso, 32/990 RHRP Ryan Turner, 36/1110 RHRP David Kubiak, 42/1290 C Michael Bourdon, 50/1530 C Ian Tomkins.
Small sample sizes are in play since it's only been a year, but I don't see anyone below Jacob Faria in the 10th round of much interest. The Rays spent $11,309,400 in signing bonuses on the 20 players taken in the first 10 rounds, or a little less than twice as much as they paid for Tim Beckham alone.
Of the top 20 picks Guerrieri, Hager, Martin, Goeddel, Ames, Snell and Carpenter have had impressive starts. The biggest disappointments so far are the injured (Carter) and very young (Harris and Eierman) along with Torrez. The rest haven't stood out much either way.
Given that the Rays had an unprecedented number of high picks in a strong draft class (with no bonus pool limitations/penalties), how do you think they did based on the results so far?
Great post. Thank you. But, look at all those RELEASES from last year's draft. Such a shame they were never given more than 2 1/2 months to show what they could do. (probably due to too many #1 picks) Players like Rayond Church and Jon Koscso- who both played a skilled 2B,and pitchers who barely had the chance to pitch because they were relievers are gone. It's a shame they were drafted by TB last year. If it was this year, they'd probably have more of a chance to play another season.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I just had to vent. Again, thanks for posting this segment. I enjoyed seeing how they're all doing.
I love this format. Great Job!
ReplyDeleteSome of them, the older college guys, asked for their release I'm sure. Especially the ones that were assigned in the GCL.
ReplyDeleteGreat Post, can we take a look at the 2010 draft year also?
ReplyDeleteIt's already written, just didn't want to post them back to back, break things up a bit. I'll probably go back to 2006 like I did last summer, 2005 is just Hellickson and Wrigley at this point, 2004 is only Niemann, Davis, Brignac and McGee, so no real minor leaguers left.
Deleteto Anonymous 12:49. The Renegades players were released by Tampa Bay. (college players) They did not ask to be released. Things changed last year. Players were rarely released until seen for 2 seasons...but, high picks mean money invested...thus, unwaranted 2011 releases.
DeleteWhat I would do is compare the Rays draftees to the players who were available at that spot.
ReplyDeleteThe Rays' top two picks (Guerrieri 1/24 and Mahtook 1/31) were regarded as the best players available, and one year out, nothing seems to change that.
Hager (1/32) and Martin (1s/38) were considered more of a reach, and they don't look like better picks than players like Jackie Bradley, Jr. (Red Sox at 40), Trevor Story (Rockies at 45), Travis Harrison (Twins, 50) or Hudson Boyd (Twins, 55).
Goeddel, Snell, and Carter were all well-regarded and are doing well. Ames was a product of the Rays' northwest scouting department. Garvin was perceived as an overdraft, and Harris was completely off the reservation. The Rays could have gone with Anthony Meo (2-63 to the Diamondbacks) or Dan Vogelbach (2-68 to the Cubs); both Meo and Vogelbach were linked to the Rays and both look like significantly better prospects at this point than the guys the Rays took.
You do have to avoid cherry-picking; there are a lot of 2nd rounders who were ranked highly by BA and others who haven't panned out -- Jason Esposito, Andrew Susac, Carl Thomore, etc.
But I think there is a fair criticism here that had the Rays spent a few million more and selected guys like Bradley, Meo, and Vogelbach instead of their below-slot selections (Hager, Garvin, Harris), they'd be better off. Of course, it's still VERY early, and I hope I'm proven wrong.
Riccio Torrez was a head-scratcher of a pick at the time it was made. (To be fair, so was Jake Floethe, and he's turned out better than expected.)
Great comment. I think those are fair comps, but like you said, it's easy to cherry pick and make the results look good or bad for the Rays if you want. Another thing is trying to compare players after they are into different orgs. And not just the coaching/player development differences, but how aggressively they promote (or with the Rays how slowly). Take some imaginary college pitcher, if he's doing well for the Rays in HV is he just beating up on kids? Or if he's in the Mets org and he's struggling in the FSL, was he just rushed? I just don't think it's fair to say how a player would do if he had been drafted by a different team because so many factors start to affect him after he's in that org.
DeleteAgree with your comments on the individual picks too, esp Garvin, Harris and Torrez. I don't think any one pick was completely awful, and overall it should turn out to be a pretty good draft, maybe a B or whatever you want to call above-average.
I guess I should include all the caveats you mention about it still being VERY early, but still... It was an overall disappointment to me because of my (unrealistic) expectations. I should have known better, but I really thought/hoped this would be an A/A+/historic-type draft.
It had everything: very strong draft class, Rays with more high picks (not including a top overall pick of course, but 12 of the first 89) than any team has ever had, no real spending limits (slots without penalties), and players anxious to sign in 2011 to avoid the restrictions in the new CBA. A perfect storm if you will.
And then we got overdrafts and budget picks and injured picks and wtf picks and a relief pitcher from Hawaii.
So if you remove expectations/potential going into the draft, it should turn out to be a pretty good draft. Good but still disappointing.
flothe has turned out alot better than anyone expected!!! He will move fast next year...
DeleteCould of also selected Josh Bell; but with the limited resources that the Rays have, I think that they had to take a few cheaper signs. i.e. Garvin, Linsky.
ReplyDeleteBut hey, if it was easy then every team would draft well.
With the ridiculous amount of early picks the Rays had, I think it's pretty astonishing that a majority of them are playing very well. I'd say James Harris has been the only early pick that's been a bust at this point, but he was labeled as a raw high risk pick to begin with. Most of the other first rounders have done nothing but raise their stock.
ReplyDeleteAnybody know what happened to Goetzman? I am guessing he is injured, but what type of injury? He has been out the past week or so which sucked because he was off to a good start in Princeton.
ReplyDeleteNo, last played July 2nd, left after one at-bat. The AB was in the bottom of the 1st, he went back out in LF in the 2nd and fielded 2 line drive singles. His turn didn't come up in the bottom of the 2nd. When they went back out in the field for the top of the 3rd he was replaced in left by Julian Morillo. Nothing in the Bluefield paper about it, and the only mention by the P-Rays was in a July 7th preview of the upcoming series where it said: "Other infielders such as Brandon Martin (.269 AVG) and Reid Redman (.262 AVG) have dipped in productivity and are not protected at the top of the lineup by Granden Goetzman after he was shelved with a recent injury."
DeleteSo who knows, sounds like a pull or a twist making a play in the OF.
They have had a couple of injuries. Goetzman re-injured his back. Silvesteri felt pain in his shoulder during and outing, and it was discovered that Faria had inflammation in his throwing elbow during his last start. He missed his last start to rehab and rest his arm.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone seen a report on Snell's velocity so far this year? Obviously he's put up great stats in SSS, but I know he was supposed to be very protectable and am curious if it's in part because his velocity has jumped a bit.
ReplyDeleteI was at a few Princeton games. Snell was at 92-94.
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